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Old March 27th, 2006, 05:46 PM
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Comments on the Introductory Essay by James Bell*

The facts concerning Blacks and the Justice system are simply staggering. These are but a few of the statistics:
  • Of the 2.1 million inmates today, 910,000 are African American. Blacks make up 43.9 percent of the state and federal prison populations but only 12.3 percent of the U.S. population.
  • One out of every three Black males born today can expect to go to prison in his lifetime.
  • One in every 18 Black women born today can expect to go to jail in her lifetime; this is six times the rate for white women.
  • 1.4 million African American men, or 13 percent, have currently or permannently lost their right to vote as a result of a felony conviction -- seven times the national average.
What can every individual do? Here are a few recommendations from The Covenant:
  • Encourage and help children in our families and neighborhoods to behave and do well in school.
  • Support children whose parents are incarcerated.
  • Encourage religious institutions to provide support (jobs, counseling) for adults returning to the community from prison.
Most of all The Covenant recommends: "Hold leaders and elected officials responsible and demand that they change current policy."
Here are some things that The Covenant recommends that you can ask your elected officials to focus on:
  • Overhaul mandatory sentencing programs to eliminate unfair treatment.
  • Ensure adequate reentry and ex-offenders programs for adults and youth.
  • Restructure "zero tolerance" policies so that all children are treated fairly.
Read about more solutions in The Covenant, and share with us any initiatives in your local community.

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Old March 30th, 2006, 03:37 AM
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Thuso, I am glad to see that you are on track but the Covenant is not the only viable approach. We must never take civil disobedience and violent revolution off the table of consideration or let a metaphor be taken for reality.

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Old March 30th, 2006, 04:05 PM
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My Brother,
I agree with you 100%. Look at the demonstrations that occured this weekend in support of the Senate Immigration bill.

If we disagree with the application of unequal justice, why not organize the type of demonstrations like those we saw this weekend? Is anyone other than Black folks upset that the system is about JUST US, and not Justice?

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is about sharing our ideas that translate into ACTION. I strongly urge you to put a proposal on the table to begin organizing protests against this inhumane treatment of our brothers and sisters. I'll bet everyone reading this post has a relative that has been imprisoned. If we don't protest, no one else will. If it leads to civil disobedience, that's what it took in the civil rights movement of the 60's. We may need to go back to those tactics.

Put your proposal out there, my brother. Let's see if we can gain support for ACTION. That's what The Covenant is about.

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Correcting a justice system that has been able to grow and morph into what it has become is a daunting task. Unfortunately, we had forefathers who used the system to obtain for us modern day Black folks the gains and rights that we have today. It is apparent a good deal of Black folks have not only just turned theier backs on this fact, but will actually tell you that they have gotten to where they're at all by themselves.

In most instances, money talks! No money no honey! You gotta pay..to play....

If a large majority of Black folks are economically marginalized, how realistic can we be to think that a wish and a prayer is going to do anything to begin the corrective process of the American justice system as it relates to Black folks? It doesn't matter if O.J. or M.J. were guilty or innocent, many view their income status as the decider of their fate. Rappers are sent to prison regardelss of the amount of money, homes and cars they have. Athletes can have numerous chilren by numerous women, who don't seem to mind as long as they get their 'check(s)' on time. In many instances it is amounts that are huge and a lot of times it sucks them into a lifestyle in which they can dress and act like little Kim; without having to actually work for the money. Sex can pay off big if done right

DON'T SHOOT, I'M JUST THE MESSENGER: In many cases these days, we need a stronger justice system to correct us!

We got thugs ballin outa control, gangbangers who will jack yo mamma without a hesitation, funeral parlors that will take the gold out of dead folks mouth, some will even promise to cremate your loved ones; only to learn they buried them out back in an old wooden box. They're is no sympathy from me.

You have brotha's avoiding child support with good paying jobs, sistah's running game on foster care systems (embezzlement), and young Jeezy's that will run a home invasion and kill execution style......so

before you write something to think the system is not for us, you may want to get on your knees and thank God we have some kind of system to counter the predators amongst us.

Anywho... when bad thing happento good people, those who can't afford legal representation from a law firm (not overworked/underpaid public defenders) would be better off with Pre-Paid Legal Service memberships. I know this sounds like a sales pitch, and if it is so what.... no one can dispute the fact that you get the type of legal help you can afford. Can't afford none, you get bad, can afford to pay you get better. I find it too bad that instead of a white man (harlan Stonecipher), a Black mind could not have come up with such an idea and opportunity, but nevertheless, the man did deliver what I believe in my professional opinion (I'm a ParaLegal) an excellent service Black folks need to use to give us better leverage in the legal arena.

I know a lot of folks are simply trying to push sales to make a buck, but I believe in the service. I have done my own law for over 20 years and have saved myself tens of thousands of dollars in the process, but not everyone is like me and know the law, process, procedure. Plus, many don't want to spent the time it takes to go obtain the type of legal education I have.

Many say that a person who represents themselves have a fool for an attorney, but realistically, anyone who let's a overworked/underpaid person represent them; whom has no vested interest in winning or loosing your case as they get paid either way; regardless of them passing the bar, is a fool. If the founding fathers (albeit slaveowners) didn't want you to be able to defend yourself in the court of law they would never had made it a constitutional right!

We buy AAA to have a piece of mind on the road. We purchase company health insurance and see a doctor once a year. We let hundreds of dollars come out of our paychecks to go to United Ways and look what it has gotten us... so it's about priority; not economics in many instances. If a couple hundred dollars a year is not worth ensuring you have access to a legal firm for your lawful problem, I hate to say, but you deserve what you get.

I signed our nonprofit up to sell PPL. It is in line with our mission to provide comprehensive services to our clients, many of which are low income; and not just Black. So many of the parents we work with buy over $200 of 'stuff' for their kids and themselves on an annual basis. CD's, designer shoes, drinky-drinks, clubbin, fancy clothes,,, even a crackhead spends over $200 a year; as well as the baller who sold the stuff to them. There's no excuse to not have preventive legal benefits; its a matter of priority and choice.

We hope to use PPL to generate revenue to finance our community operations. We assist in preparing legal document that we can, under review of their PPL lawyers, so they can file timely document in the courts themselves when necessary. The fact is; 90% of all cases are settled out of court.... visa vi a flurry of crafty legal documents. Black folks don't have wills; as with a majority of whites. We lose property handed down by generations because of probate and ignorance and then want to cry foul when the state ends up with great-grandma's property.

As a nonprofit, we established a way for those who want to help a family to donate the exact amount to get them PPL coverage for a year. We will ensure they get their will completed, understand how to best use the service, and we even provide business consultation to those who obtain their PPL membership fromour agency and have businesses. Nevertheless, its still a hard sell. In most nstances, the very people we tried to get the service to, come back to us when they have a legal problem arise.... and they often can't take our advice at that time because they then have to realize they missed our opportunity. We send them to an attorney we work with who only charges $150/hr, two hour minimum.

We would love to umbrella the largest contingency of Black nonprofits wanting to have a role in a restorative justice action plan. We want a nonprofit partner in all states that we can work with; which also helps their agency earn additional revenue not based on handouts. As a collective, we can take Harlans product to a level whereas it is highly beneficial to ur people.

Finally, FEMA gave $2000 to Katrina/Rita victims with no education on how to use it to their best interest. If they all would have purchased a PPL membership, they would have an attorney firm working for them in N.O. instead of reading about their property being taking over the world news.

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Old March 30th, 2006, 07:10 PM
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Brother Lazone,

What we want in these forums is dialog and solutions. You have done that . . . to a certain extent.
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In many cases these days, we need a stronger justice system to correct us!
I was looking forward to a solution following this statement. What we got was a sales pitch for Prepaid Legal Services. While this is a "solution" for certain legal problems, I missed the point about how this helps correct the system of unequal justice.
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If a large majority of Black folks are economically marginalized, how realistic can we be to think that a wish and a prayer is going to do anything to begin the corrective process of the American justice system as it relates to Black folks?
I guess this is your conclusion about attempts to correct the system of unequal justice. So, your approach is to "sell Prepaid Legal Services."

You are entitled to your opinion, and solution. I wonder what others think.
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Old March 30th, 2006, 09:31 PM
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Thuso, I am still laughing out loud at that add for prepaid legal insurance that just ran in the WRONG forum. lol However on the serious tip we might just need some when and if we take more drastic actions against the Establishment. There was no such technology as prepaid legal insurance back in the day, the sixties. lol




My second point is we cannot discuss strategies and tactic over the Internet, which maybe why an aware brother like IBSA cut in on us. Believe it or not there is really a CIA and FBI out there who pay people to do nothing but watch these forums and as paranoid as our power structure is after 911 you can bet your last dollar that they are paying close attention iZania. Thuso, besure to check the links out of my personal webpage. ( Click of Customer77 upper left and then click my homewpage and click on links bar) You will find plenty of water there. lol




I will throw out and Idea that fits into something the watchers will not mind but will start your wheels spinning. I had been thinking about a call for all unemployed men and women wanting work to march down to city hall and demand jobs in mass. We want Jobs! Start demanding jobs. Show the world just how many unemployed Americans there are in the land of plenty.
If need be go to jail until we get jobs.



Thuso we have to hookup eyeball to eyeball. IBSA Thanks for the interruption.

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Old March 31st, 2006, 02:00 PM
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I spent a good deal of time responding only to have the your space come back as not found; with all my info gone. I'm not going to take such time again.

It is comments from folks like customer77 that is our problem. Are biggest enemy is within.
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IBSA, I am going to overlook that. PEACE brother.
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